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260-home development to go ahead in Hendredenny after Welsh Government overturns council’s planning rejection

News | Richard Gurner | Published: 14:22, Friday October 6th, 2017.

The application site to the north of the existing Hendredenny housing estate
The application site to the north of the existing Hendredenny housing estate

A scheme to expand a housing estate with 260 new homes is to go ahead after the Welsh Government overturned a rejected planning application on appeal.

Housing developers Redrow will build on land north of Hendredenny, near Trecenydd, despite Caerphilly County Borough Council refusing planning permission in April last year.

Following an appeal however, Welsh Government Secretary for Environment and Rural Affairs Lesley Griffiths AM has ruled the development on green fields can now go ahead.

The decision has provoked anger from politicians and residents who say the area already suffers from adverse traffic levels which will be made worse by the new homes.

Cllr Lindsay Whittle, who represents the Penyrheol ward which covers the estate, said he was “incandescent with rage”.

The Plaid Cymru member said: “I cannot believe Lesley Griffiths has made this decision. She has badly let the people of Caerphilly down.”

The original reason for the development being turned down was the impact it would have on local traffic levels.

In her decision letter Ms Griffiths said: “The inspector is satisfied, whilst the proposed development will add additional traffic to the peak hour flows, it is not at any significant level and does not cause the junctions to be at over capacity. I have no reason to disagree.”

The Secretary for Environment and Rural Affairs also said that while the development was outside the settlement boundary of the currently adopted Local Development Plan (LDP), it was in a “sustainable location in terms of access to services, amenities and public transport”.

The report, which the secretary based her decision on, also made reference to the fact that Caerphilly County Borough Council does not have an up-to-date LDP in terms of a five-year housing supply. An LDP is a planning blueprint that sets out where development can take place and must have a clear housing supply plan for the next five years.

Caerphilly County Borough Council withdrew its replacement LDP last year after fierce opposition from residents unhappy that green spaces had been earmarked for development.

The inspector wrote: “[Welsh Government policy] advises that where land supply is below the five-year requirement ‘the need to increase supply should be given considerable weight when dealing with planning applications provided that the development would otherwise comply with the development plan and national planning policies’. Clearly this is not the case in this instance, however, the extent of the shortfall weighs heavily in favour of development that can proceed without causing harm to its surroundings.

“Whilst I accept that the proposed development does not accord with the development plan in so far as it relates to development outside defined settlement boundaries…the lack of five-year housing land supply weighs heavily in favour of the proposed development.”

The inspector also cited the recent decision to allow 300 homes in Pandy Road, Bedwas, in his report and said the Hendredenny development would be consistent with this.

Caerphilly Assembly Member Hefin David, who opposed the replacement LDP when he was a councillor, has been calling for a Strategic Development Plan to be devised that covers a wider region. It is understood that while Caerphilly Council is working on this with Welsh Government officials, progress is slow. In the meantime, the Welsh Government’s planning policy means that without an up-to-date LDP and a five-year housing land supply, Caerphilly County Borough is vulnerable to housing developers effectively building where they want.

Dr David said: “There were very many strong arguments against this development, not least with regard to traffic congestion. I am amazed and deeply disappointed that the planning inspector has overturned this democratic decision of Caerphilly Council to not allow this development.

“It highlights a wider problem with planning. We need housing but it must be in the right place, it must be affordable and it must be connected to adequate transport links.

“The development at Hendredenny will meet none of these criteria. I am meeting the Welsh Government Cabinet Secretary Lesley Griffiths AM on Monday to express my concerns in the strongest possible terms. I will be calling for a change of direction in planning policy and for this to happen fast. I share the frustration and anger of residents who have been ill served by a failing system.”

Cllr Whittle said Ms Griffiths had “sold Hefin David down the river”.

He added: “Lesley Griffiths has the power to change and suspend the policy until we have an amended LDP. She is afraid of a judicial review.”

Caerphilly Member of Parliament Wayne David agreed that the Welsh Government needed to change its policy.

He said: “The onus should not be on why the development shouldn’t go ahead, but on the developer to make their case, rather than the other way round. It’s very wrong.

I lived in Hendredenny for 11 years so I know first-hand the issues which affect the area.

“It’s troubling. The law has to change. It’s nonsensical to criticise Caerphilly County Borough Council, who have been strong in their opposition and listened to residents when withdrawing the LDP. The fault lies with the Welsh Government.”

A Welsh Government spokesperson said: “All local authorities in Wales are required to have an adopted and up to date Local Development Pan. They must also maintain a five-year land supply for new housing. Together, these ensure the appropriate amount of new housing in the right locations is provided.

“Unfortunately, Caerphilly Council does not have a five-year land supply for housing and stopped work on a new LDP last year. This is a matter for Caerphilly Council to resolve.

“We understand they withdrew their LDP as members felt it did not represent their needs. While we have put in place legislation that allows for the preparation of a Strategic Development Plan covering a wider area than a single authority, a proposal is yet to come forward.

“We have continually stressed to local planning authorities that work on LDPs should not stop awaiting an SDP.”

A spokesman for Caerphilly County Borough Council said the authority noted the decision.

84 thoughts on “260-home development to go ahead in Hendredenny after Welsh Government overturns council’s planning rejection”

  1. Paul. says:
    Friday, October 6, 2017 at 14:53

    Welsh Government Secretary for Environment and Rural Affairs Lesley Griffiths AM – Welsh Labour, has ruled the development on green fields can now go ahead.
    All you blinkered Labour voters who continually return them to power, your chickens are coming home to roost.
    This is a result of Welsh Labour failing to build enough new homes in Wales.

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  2. John Coffi says:
    Friday, October 6, 2017 at 15:47

    With all these proposed new housing developments in the caerphilly area – the road improvements at Pwll-y-Pant roundabout (Corbetts ) will be totally inadequate to meet future demand.
    What a shambles – thats local Welsh Government for you !

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  3. PaulS says:
    Friday, October 6, 2017 at 16:00

    So they call this democracy do they. Caerphilly council refuses permission to build on the land, so the developer takes it to the Welsh assembly and then they will agree to it because they do not have the balls to say wait a while. This woman who is the secretary for Environment and Rural Affairs probably does not even know where Caerphilly is, let alone been to see where the development is to take place. A google search suggests she is based in Wrexham.

    Unfortunately developers do not care where they build or whom they upset in the process. It is cheaper for developers to build on green field sites rather than brown fields ones. Developers are like locus, they go from area to area raping the land scape. However the only difference between the two are locus do it to survive, where as developers do it for money and profit. This development will not be affordable housing for people who need affordable housing, there will be more traffic and congestion on the roads and there will be more demand on resources of the town. So in short, when are people of Caerphilly actually going to wake up to all of this. The only person I know who is active in battling this rape and pillage on our green fields and town is Cllr Mr Whittle who is very active in his quest, and may he long continue. I would add to his comment in this article though where he says, Ms Griffiths had “sold Hefin David down the river” I would add “also the people of Caerphilly”. So in sum then,any further planned developments in the town or ones that have been rejected, or in for consideration by the local council, if rejected by the council, the developer just goes to the Welsh government where it will be passed without too much problem……and that’s called democracy.

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    1. Johnny Plectrum says:
      Friday, October 6, 2017 at 16:15

      It’s actually called a planning appeal.
      If you check the planning inspectorate’s statistics you’ll find that the figure for successful appeals hovers consistently around the 35% mark.

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    2. Paul. says:
      Friday, October 6, 2017 at 17:18

      Every developer no matter how big or small has the right to appeal, we live in a democracy not under a dictatorship, although there’s little evidence of that here in Wales. Yet again Caerphilly Council have lost a planning appeal and yet again tax payers of Caerphilly will have to foot the bill which I dare say runs into ten’s of thousands of pounds, Redrow’s legal team doesn’t come cheap, although ultimately Caerphilly Council are the winners, 260 new homes will yield over £1million in Community Infrastructure Levy payments, and it will be 260 more households paying council tax.
      Developers do care where they build, and Redrow will want to make as much profit per unit as they can, Caerphilly is a prime building location, and once the tolls are lifted from the Severn bridge it will become an even more attractive place to build as Bristol commuters who can’t afford Bristol prices will be looking for more affordable housing.
      Perhaps if all those who disagree with yet another housing development will think twice before voting for Labour again, although by the time the next elections come around they will have forgotten all about how they’ve been sold a pup by Hefin David and his mates.

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      1. John Coffi says:
        Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 14:56

        Yes,and once the folks from Bristol start their migration to Caerphilly this will push up house prices even more – and local people will have no chance of affordable housing.

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      2. Pete says:
        Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 18:13

        Spot on.

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  4. Richard Williams says:
    Friday, October 6, 2017 at 18:37

    Wrong decision, the last thing Caerffili needs is more houses built on our, ever diminishing, green spaces. It is high time that the useless Welsh Assembly was abolished.

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    1. Pete says:
      Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 18:12

      Broken up or sold to the highest bidder. Do away with an unnecessary layer of red tape.

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      1. Richard Williams says:
        Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 18:42

        Not just unecessary, the Cardiff Talking shop is damaging to Wales. I sometimes watch recordings of their proceedings and am shocked at how mediocre many of the AMs are.

        If these AMs are to be able to handle planning matters as they see fit it begs the question – why do we have 22 councils in Wales spending time considering applications from ‘developers?’

        If they (the local authority) decide that they would prefer to keep their local ammenities, rather than offer housing for incomers, this crass bunch in Cardiff will trump their decision.

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        1. Pete says:
          Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 19:49

          They serve no purpose other than to subvert democracy and ride the gravy train around Europe and back and forth to London to make themselves feel important.
          Less government is what is needed and not our current 3 layer system.
          Or at the very least it would be better to spend our taxes on frontline services rather endless reams of the bourgeoisie.

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          1. Richard Williams says:
            Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 20:50

            Agreed, also there are four layers of government if you count the EU. All very expensive and guess who pays – the low and middle income wage earner. All of whom are on lower wages than the politicians.

  5. Jack Jones says:
    Friday, October 6, 2017 at 23:25

    Wow thank goodness for the Welsh government why did Caerphilly council turn down the permission down in the first place.
    We need more new homes in Caerphilly we have a shortage
    It’s now down to Caerphilly council to look at traffic congestion plan new roads make them bigger the only problem I can see is the lights at the dip and the roundabout at the top move the entrance to the school that will free traffic congestion.

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    1. Pete says:
      Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 18:06

      We don’t have a shortage of homes in Caerphilly, we have an over supply of people migrating in from elsewhere because we have 300k ‘new Britains’ arriving on our shores every year.
      Something that Labour is also fully on board with funnily enough.
      I’ve got 3 new neighbors from Cardiff and 1 from London, all priced out or escaping for…another reason.
      That’s the reason for the ‘housing shortage’.

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      1. Jack Jones says:
        Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 20:26

        Look Caerphilly has got to grow its going to become a suburb of Cardiff and yes price for homes in Cardiff are increasing so it’s good for you and everyone in Caerphilly.
        Price on property are up in the Caerphilly area and we all beef the choice to buy a bigger or down size our property what the council needs to do is creating bigger and better roads.
        Senghenydd school entrance is one of the problems and the roundabout they need to take a slip road from hendredenny to the garden centre and move the entrance to the school.
        Look we live in the 21St century and now homes in the area have 2-3 or 4 cars in the homes and there is not enough parking anywhere so there will be congestion.

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        1. Pete says:
          Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 20:52

          I’ll look where I want mate!
          Caerphilly is not destined to become a suburb of cardiff on account there’s are a Rudy great mountain in the way and it’s common land.
          I’m well aware of what century we live in and that isn’t a catch all justification for any argument so you’ll have to do better than that.
          Yes, the entrance to ST CENYDD School has problems with traffic which will get a lot worse when there’s a couple of hundred more households near it. Which is in fact an argument against it.

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          1. Jack Jones says:
            Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 21:15

            It’s only 260 homes + like 260 cars it’s nothing it’s going ahead get over it
            Get lindsay Whittle to sort it he’s in a rage over it

          2. Pete says:
            Saturday, October 7, 2017 at 22:04

            In your last post you suggested that each house could have 2, 3 or even 4 cars now you suggest there will only be ‘like 260 cars, it’s nothing’.
            From Oxford living dictionary

            Consistent

            Consistent behaviour or treatment.
            ‘the consistency of measurement techniques’

            The quality of achieving a level of performance which does not vary greatly in quality over time.

            ie ‘we know we have the ability at the club—what we need is consistency’

            What exactly would you like me to get over? A different viewpoint?

          3. Jack Jones says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 12:36

            Let’s see
            New homes in the Caerphilly area absolutely fantastic we need the we want them.
            There’s a shortage of properties new homes Caerphilly is growing and growing.
            Good on the Welsh government for over turning Caerphilly council a council stuck in the dark ages.

          4. Pete says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 13:33

            Thank you for countering my points so precisely. Lol

          5. John Coffi says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 16:56

            Jack says “only 260new homes” he’s ignoring the other developments already proposed off Pandy Road and Gwern y
            Domen- and as for adding extra lanes to roads thats a joke.
            How many times have caerphilly council altered the road markings at Trecenydd roundabout already 3-4 ?
            The changes at Corbetts will be the same abysmal carnage.
            They altered the road layout on the by pass by Ysbyty Ystrad Fawr – and succeeded in moving the gridlock from the Dance Centre roundabout to the link with the main carriageway leading up to Maesycwmmer.
            The council are a total joke.

          6. Pete says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 18:53

            Jack confused insisting an argument is right with facts based reasoning.

          7. Edward J Smith says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 21:58

            I agree with you totally pete, i think jack needs to come into the real world, instead of his fantasy world.

          8. Edward J Smith says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 22:03

            Try grammer and punctuation it may help with your arguement and make it easier to understand.

          9. Jack Jones says:
            Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 23:23

            Thankyou.
            Caerphilly council have the money and the resources.
            Don’t believe everything.
            Remember what Osborne and Cameron said we in it together?
            And how can the government pay 3 billion for infrastructure in the north.
            There is enough money to go around.

          10. Edward J Smith says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 18:39

            The goverment can £3 billion to the north because they have a different budget to Wales. Also alot of the money to build infradtructure has been devolved to the cardiff talking shop. We also had a lot money from the EU. Which has no gone so we will have even less money. If Caerphilly council have the money why do they have to save £9 million and then raise council tax to cover these mistakes. The council could not run a bath and our beloved services will suffer. Its also we are in it together not we in together.

          11. Edward J Smith says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 18:56

            I would also like to know how you know Caerphilly council have the money and resources are you employed by the council and inside information about their finances.

          12. Jack Jones says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 22:03

            Mr Edward get this right
            I have already sent it to you.
            I believe Caerphilly council is 9-5.

          13. Edward J Smith says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 07:42

            Mark my words, with all the pressure being put on welsh councils by the welsh talking shop aka the assembly. We will see job losses within our councils, services being cut and a much higher council tax. If thats what you wants thats what you will get. Maybe its the asssembly living in a world of make believe.

          14. Edward J Smith says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 07:39

            Well said pete, well said that man.

          15. Edward J Smith says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 07:38

            Get your maths right Jack in one post say only 260 cars and im the next you are suggesting double that. So whats it to be 260 cars or 520 cars at least.

          16. Jack Jones says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 10:33

            Do your maths 2-3 cars to a house ” possible”.
            My next door neighbour has 5 cars in his house hold.
            I have 2.
            Did you shout about the homes thay built on the bottom of hendredenny.
            Did you shout out about the homes built next to penyrheol wow massive housing estate.
            Caerphilly council pays far tomuch for thay department head’s.
            Councillors are bleeding the council dry for what.
            Caerphilly will grow and grow.

          17. Edward J Smith says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 18:29

            Ok but in your first post you said for the number of houses would be the same number of cars. Then you said it could be 4 cars per household now you say it could as much as 5. Did your go to same school of as corbyn because he cant make up his mind either. You seem to blowing your own argument out of the water each time.

        2. Edward J Smith says:
          Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 22:16

          Caerphilly council cant maintain the roads they have, they cant afford to build new roads. Dont forget they face huge cuts this year. So how will they pay for these roads? High council tax or will we see a cut in other services provided by the council?

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          1. Jack Jones says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 20:51

            Edward thanks for asking are you and Peter councillors

          2. Pete says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 21:13

            No I’m not.

          3. Edward J Smith says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:24

            Im definitly not.

        3. Edward J Smith says:
          Monday, October 9, 2017 at 08:14

          Get your maths right Jack in one post say only 260 cars and im the next you are suggesting double that. So whats it to be 260 cars or 520 cars at least.

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          1. Jack Jones says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 15:59

            Edward J Smith • a month ago
            Over the years I have seen an increase in traffic on our roads. Our house were not built with sufficient parking for cars. We can not dictate how many cars a household should have, at one point there was four cars in our home. The council needs to make more off road parking for people and the police need to take parking more seriously, I have seen too many police constabules and community police walking past cars that is parked on double yellow lines and near junctions and have done appsoultly nothing at all. Its only a minor crime but if allowed to get away with this people carry on and break laws. I’m sure they wouldn’t be so leanant on speeding. It concerns me that we don’t know who will carry out this enforcement, private firm or council wardens. I don’t think council wardens should carry out this task as they can’t carry out the many tasks they are involved with now
            so when i said a house could have 12345 wow 4 in your household and then pick me up on my mistakes

    2. Edward J Smith says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 07:35

      And how is caerphilly council going to pay for all these new roads??? They already have to make savings of £9 million pounds, they also have to pay to demolish a few of their old buildings, costing £3 million. So they have to save £12 million next year alone. So how are they going to budget for new roads?? Maybe cut a few of our services or loose jobs with in the council. I would rather see jobs and no services being cut then more roads and houses. And as for caerphilly becoming. Surberb of Cardiff, over my dead body.

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    3. john frederick hackett says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 22:01

      stop the parents from driving into the school first,angel lane blocked with traffic,all down to the lazy parents

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      1. Jack Jones says:
        Monday, October 9, 2017 at 22:13

        Absolutely can’t agree more.
        Bet most of the parents are local.
        Need to move the entrance to the school.
        May be get one of the new traffic warden’s from Caerphilly council to hand out 60.00 tickets that get money for our roads.

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        1. Edward J Smith says:
          Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 08:56

          There is no traffic warden within caerphilly council, that will be passed over next year with a year transistion process, so if it happends it wont be until 2019. Then the council have to find a way to fund them. It could be an all gwent consortium tackle parking. In my opinion traffic problems should be left to the police and not outside organisations. God forbid if they give it to the council wardens, that would be a disaster

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          1. Jack Jones says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:04

            Ed
            Lol thay will be funded and are coming.
            Gwent police are stopping issuing tickets.
            Maybe from the revenue of the 260 homes.
            It will stop all illegal parking.

          2. Edward J Smith says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:33

            My name is Edward or Ted to my friends. You may address me as Edward. Please refer to the argus where Newport council say it will cost them £1.3 million to impose. No council in Gwent have this type of money. They also said they would have to all free car parking within Newport city centre. This would impact hugely on tourist and visitors coming to our town. Please tell me how will they get the revenue from the new homes? The council can not run its existing enforcement staff, just look how badly manged the council wardens are? We never see them anymore and if we do they are in a car or on their phone. We need a professional agency to run it, a private one.

  6. Ian Gorman says:
    Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 22:39

    Let’s get to the point here. There were lots of folk fighting against these developments not just a couple of Plaid and Labour locals playing for votes but also UKIP and non-aligned citizens. However Plaid and Labour down the Bay are always going to do whatever the heck they want. Your best shot was to rebel and vote in UKIP in large numbers in 2016 and none of these developments would have gone forward. Mark my words Plaid and Labour have sold the people of Caerphilly out and will do it again and again.

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    1. Pete says:
      Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 23:11

      They are not going to make that connection and labour know that full well. They will continue unabated.

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    2. Richard Williams says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 01:42

      Absolutely, UKIP manifesto commitment allowed no building, anywhere on green field land. At least they realised that we need green spaces as a vital farming and leisure resource. They also realised that once we finally leave the EU there will not be more than 300,000 extra people, per year, looking for homes, doctors, schools or using the transport sysyem.

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  7. Edward J Smith says:
    Monday, October 9, 2017 at 07:56

    Twice now i have commented on this post and twice they have been removed. Someone cant handle the truth!! Free speech if disagree with someone its not free anymore by the seem of things. I did agree with all your comments pete but they have been taken down.

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    1. Jack Jones says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 20:44

      Edward read my comments
      If there are 260 homes then it’s a possibility of 1 per house but in today age there is a possibility of 2-3-or even more read it probably.
      That’s all the post where on about is congestion in my last post I said my next door neighbour has 5 cars big deal.
      Any how I may buy a new property there.

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      1. Edward J Smith says:
        Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 09:10

        So you agree that the road structure will not cope and caerphilly is ill equipped to deal with such volume of traffic. They also face huge cuts over the next few years so will have no money to build new roads. And again its : read it properly not probably they mean two different things. And its all the post were on about not where, where means in what place or position eg where is my pen? Where do you live.

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        1. Jack Jones says:
          Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 17:39

          Ed read pete words don’t have a shortage of homes in Caerphilly, we have an over supply of people migrating in from elsewhere because we have 300k ‘new Britains’ arriving on our shores every year.
          Something that Labour is also fully on board with funnily enough.
          I’ve got 3 new neighbors from Cardiff and 1 from London, all priced out or escaping for…another reason.
          That’s the reason for the ‘housing shortage’.

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  8. Edward J Smith says:
    Monday, October 9, 2017 at 08:04

    So Jack how is caerphilly council going to pay for all these new roads??? They already have to make savings of £9 million pounds, they also have to pay to demolish a few of their old buildings, costing £3 million. So they have to save £12 million next year alone. So how are they going to budget for new roads?? Maybe cut a few of our services or loose jobs with in the council. I would rather see jobs and no services being cut then more roads and houses. And as for caerphilly becoming. Surberb of Cardiff, over my dead body.

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  9. Edward J Smith says:
    Monday, October 9, 2017 at 08:05

    Mark my words Jack with all the pressure being put on welsh councils by the welsh talking shop aka the assembly. We will see job losses within our councils, services being cut and a much higher council tax. If thats what you wants thats what you will get. Maybe its the asssembly living in a world of make believe.

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    1. Jack Jones says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 10:44

      Edward
      I don’t have a problem with building new properties in and around the Caerphilly area.
      There’s jobs for the young.
      We do have a shortage of homes in Caerphilly.
      And It’s called progress.
      Why don’t you ask the farmer why he sold the land.

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    2. Jack Jones says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 10:57

      Edward
      I don’t have a problem with building new properties in and around the Caerphilly area.
      There’s jobs for the young.
      We do have a shortage of homes in Caerphilly.
      And It’s called progress.
      Why don’t you ask the farmer why he sold the land.

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    3. Jack Jones says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 11:08

      Let’s get one thing in here.
      How we going to pay for the roads and the cuts.
      How can a chief executive officer Mr O’Sullivan of Caerphilly council pay himself 50k more and all the ones with him have such big pay rise.
      For what.?????????

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      1. Pete says:
        Monday, October 9, 2017 at 17:16

        Nobody here is on board with the pay rises here jack. Neither are we on board with more houses being built in Caerphilly which will profit the house builder and cost the council taxpayers in infrastructure deficiencies.
        We don’t need more houses in Caerphilly, we need less bleed over from other parts of the country because of housing shortages in the SE of England.
        Provincial towns like Caerphilly are being used as pressure valves to cope with massive influx of new arrivals.
        Yes it pushes the price of our houses up but it also puts the average house price beyond the reach of young and first time buyers.
        My house has almost quadrupled in value in 17 Years.
        The supply of houses is kept artificially low and the demand artificially high with occasional pressure relief spread around the country.
        It’s not new News that the government creates a problem then offers the solution to the problem that costs the populace in various ways.
        Do me a favour and at least look into it a little bit.

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        1. John Coffi says:
          Monday, October 9, 2017 at 18:50

          Well said Pete – and have you read the article on here about the development land at Penrhos roundabout ?( will possibly offer restaurants and yes- more new houses ).
          When house prices become unaffordable for local people and they are stuck in gridlocked traffic while going to and from work they may reflect on how stupid the Welsh Government are.

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          1. Pete says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 21:25

            The suburban sprawl and annexation of small towns will stop when we drop off the fiscal cliff that still looms large even though it hasn’t made the headlines for over a year.
            As I have posted elsewhere here it happened in NI after the last disaster and the crash was felt most by working class people who had mortgaged themselves to the hilt on a new home.
            A 3 bed semi in Caerphilly should not cost upwards of 250k as it’s unsustainable due to local wages hovering around the 20k or less mark.
            We are storing up problems for the future with uncontrolled population growth in key areas and sporadic, badly planned pressure relief in smaller communities around the country.

            I hadn’t heard of the other new developments but I’m not surprised.

        2. Edward J Smith says:
          Monday, October 9, 2017 at 19:11

          Well said Pete jack doesn’t seem to have a clue.

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          1. Jack Jones says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:14

            Ed
            Whats it got to do with you where I live I could be one of the 3000 migrants or one of the Bristol clan waiting to buy in Caerphilly
            It’s really sad to think you just want Caerphilly to remain in the dark age

          2. Edward J Smith says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:35

            Im not concerned where you live, and i want caerphilly to prosper. I dont want it choked to death by heavy traffic. So sto assuming things

        3. Jack Jones says:
          Monday, October 9, 2017 at 20:49

          Yes asked how Caerphilly council was going to pay for new roads and it was about a raise in council tax and services and job cuts I made a comment on the pay raise that should never have happened our council tax to pay for Mr O’Sullivan illegal pay increase.

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          1. Pete says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 21:08

            Thats a fair question but it doesn’t do much for your argument regarding new housing developments.
            I don’t think we’re on the same page Jack.
            There are plenty of issues with CCBC that need resolving and I’m sure we could agree on many of them, but to suggest the only answer to a housing shortage is more houses is naive.
            Decreasing the demand on the current stock is also a viable prospect. This will help solve the problem in the long term and take the urgency out of it. It could reduce the worth of your average home which would be very unfortunate for many people but this happens with large financial crashes anyway. There will be another large crash soon and it’s going to catch a lot more mortgage payers out if we continue to kick the can down the road by building more and more houses.
            Entire estates lay empty and partially built in NI after the last fiscal disaster and those that had bought ahead of the game found themselves stranded on building sites with worthless properties.
            People move out, move up and pass on in towns like Caerphilly all the time which frees up old stock. The problem is that there are a lot more potential buyers in the market. Not less houses.

      2. Edward J Smith says:
        Monday, October 9, 2017 at 19:17

        Just to correct you it’s how are we going to. Ands it their family not there. And it’s wish I had job there it Would be for life. Sorry but I hate bad grammar

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    4. Jack Jones says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 20:55

      Edward just rushing between meetings and sending comments lol

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      1. Edward J Smith says:
        Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:36

        Im retired for your information, not as its any of your business

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        1. Jack Jones says:
          Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 15:11

          did i say you where working i don’t give a dam

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    5. Jack Jones says:
      Monday, October 9, 2017 at 21:08

      5000 people waiting for social housing in the Caerphilly area and we not got a problem don’t know what you guys are reading
      Why are you so against migration lots of English live abroad or own property abroad.
      Think it’s a little racist going on here we can live anywhere and remember we still in the EU anyone can move buy anywhere so don’t say about my grammar when I can see racist going on.

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      1. Pete says:
        Monday, October 9, 2017 at 21:28

        Aaaaaand there we have it! Can’t win an argument? Just shout racist!

        I’m surprised it took you so long.

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        1. Jack Jones says:
          Monday, October 9, 2017 at 21:55

          But it has been both of you shouting about 300k new British people waiting at the borders.thats” racist”
          How many British live abroad how many British have second homes abroad.
          Yes racist words it’s not the point about winning a argument it’s about homes.
          5 million for the new roundabout and you all say that Caerphilly council can’t afford it lol.

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          1. john frederick hackett says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 22:17

            only doing work on the roundabout,because of the mess they caused in their house building plan,also this women is a pawn in big game,bet she gets a back hander

          2. Pete says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 22:27

            That’s because 300k new Britain’s are arriving here every year. It is a factor, it cannot be ignored, this is the real world where cause and effect is an actual thing.

            I don’t care how many British people live abroad, that’s a problem for their host countries to worry about. I’m not going to tell them how to go about their business as it’s non of my business.

            Your next point doesn’t make any sense.

            We wouldn’t need the new roundabout if we didn’t have so many cars on our towns roads which we have because we keep building so many more houses.
            You just argued against your own point!

          3. Jack Jones says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 23:17

            Well Pete I agree we don’t need a new roundabout I totally agree 5 million pounds can be used on new homes for our new 300k British migrants as you call them all coming to Caerphilly.
            Maybe it’s about time the government tax cars more.
            Public transport could be the answer but there you may find it hard to travel with them on the same public transport.
            Less cars on the roads may be the answer 1 car per home perfect.

          4. Pete says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 00:07

            I never suggested we didn’t need the roundabout, I suggested we wouldn’t need it if we didn’t build so many houses. There are also other factors like centralisation of job development inside of cities forcing people to commute, amongst other things.

            I did not suggest spending £5 million on housing was a good idea so you can’t ‘agree’.

            I never suggested that 300k new Britains were coming to Caerphilly, I said they were arriving in the uk and it was having a knock on effect on towns like Caerphilly.

            Cars are expensive enough to run in this country thank you very much, particularly in rural areas. Why should they suffer increased costs in order to ease the burden on cities and towns?

            Public transport has improved in this valley recently with the edition of new platforms and stations. But it doesn’t really suffice when you live off route and have to start at 6 in the morning.

            I’ll happily travel with anybody as I don’t assign blame to honest citizens for the mismanagement of our borders by the government. I’ve traveled extensively internationally and I know perfectly well why people want to come here to live and I don’t blame them one bit.

            Your last sentence was pointless and asinine.

          5. Edward J Smith says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:40

            Totally agree with Pete, jack does not have a clue.

          6. Jack Jones says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 23:24

            We voted leave the EU and until that happens we stuck until 2019 then we get back our borders.

          7. Pete says:
            Monday, October 9, 2017 at 23:49

            Watch this space. A week is along time in politics.

          8. Jack Jones says:
            Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 00:13

            Absolutely Madam May is a dead woman walking.

      2. Edward J Smith says:
        Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:39

        I agree Pete neither of us have said anything racist but yet again because he can win an argument we are racists. A typical liberal.

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    6. Jack Jones says:
      Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:21

      Why are you against the migrants why you against Cardiff London Bristol people coming to live in Caerphilly.
      Come on spit it out tell us

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      1. Edward J Smith says:
        Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 12:07

        Did i say i was anti migrants?? No i did not. Stop making me a racist when i have not or will not make a racist comment.

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  10. Sianny Jones says:
    Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 03:19

    So the Council , (who know the rules about having a 5yr plan, and if they don’t they shouldn’t be there), were shouted down by the people about the LDP which include this Hendredenny plan and then withdrew their LDP, appearing to support the people. Then, knowing that if they didn’t provide an alternative 5 yr plan, the planners would be able to appeal and WG would have to allow planning permission, so they didn’t provide an alternative 5 yr plan.Then they feign surprise at getting exactly what they wanted just by doing nothing. Well done CCBC, but not unnoticed, passive aggressive planning = refuse the initial developers plan to keep residents happy, then don’t or can’t fight the developers appeal.

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