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Senedd debate on ‘omnishambles’ UK budget ends in deadlock

News | Chris Haines - ICNN Senedd Reporter | Published: 11:06, Thursday November 20th, 2025.

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Plaid Cymru Senedd Members Delyth Jewell, Cefin Campbell, Heledd Fychan, and Llŷr Gruffydd
Plaid Cymru Senedd Members Delyth Jewell, Cefin Campbell, Heledd Fychan, and Llŷr Gruffydd

Senedd politicians have traded insults over the UK Government’s “omnishambles” budget in a chaotic debate that saw the finance secretary accused of being unable to “run a bath”.

Plaid Cymru’s Heledd Fychan led the charge ahead of the chancellor’s statement next week, warning public services cannot afford another UK budget that “sidelines Wales”.

Ms Fychan urged Welsh ministers to press UK colleagues for HS2 consequential funding, devolution of the Crown Estate, and the reversal of inheritance tax changes on family farms.

She criticised Labour for tabling a “delete all” amendment to the motion, asking: “Is there nothing you want to see the UK chancellor announce next week that will benefit Wales?”

Plaid Cymru’s shadow finance secretary added: “Do you simply know there’s no point in asking because they aren’t listening? Is there an acceptance that all we can do is note that the budget happens… rather than trying to shape it?”

‘Deeply flawed’

Sam Rowlands, the Conservatives’ shadow finance secretary, warned Labour’s so-called partnership in power was failing the people of Wales.

Conservative MS Sam Rowlands
Conservative MS Sam Rowlands

But he described the Plaid Cymru motion as “deeply flawed” and “built on a fantasy” that would be “dangerous for our Welsh economy”.

Mr Rowlands opposed the devolution of the Crown Estate as well as a “reckless, unfunded” call to abolish the two-child benefit cap.

Accusing Plaid Cymru of “propping up” Labour, he told the Senedd: “Plaid’s obsession with independence isn’t just reckless, it would break up the UK and leave Wales even poorer.”

The former council leader stressed: “Radical independence or aggressive devolution comes at a price – and that price falls on the taxpayer.”

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‘Hokey cokey’

Plaid Cymru’s Llŷr Gruffydd said the UK Government budget has become an omnishambles even before it has been delivered by Rachel Reeves on November 26.

He told the Senedd: “It’s fast becoming a u-turn budget: scrapping the two-child benefit cap was out, now it’s in. Hiking income tax was in but now it’s out. It’s a bit of a hokey-cokey budget, isn’t it, from a government that’s clearly in power but totally out of control.”

Rhun ap Iorwerth, the Plaid Cymru leader, accused the Welsh Government of an “absence of political backbone” for failing to support the calls.

Lee Waters, a former minister, was sympathetic to the aims of Plaid Cymru’s motion but he accused the party of gesture politics and refusing to engage with practical realities.

Alun Davies, a fellow Labour backbencher, criticised the Welsh Government’s “delete-all” amendment, saying: “If these debates are to be worth having, then they need to be debates where there is engagement between the government and other parties.”

‘Preposterous’

Finance secretary Mark Drakeford
Finance secretary Mark Drakeford

Responding to Wednesday’s (November 19) debate, Mark Drakeford criticised the “kitchen sink of a motion” which “if not designed to divide… inevitably has that effect”.

He said: “We spent an hour talking about decisions that have never been devolved to this Senedd and which not a single vote here can determine.”

Darren Millar, the Conservative group leader, intervened to say it was preposterous to complain of a “kitchen-sink motion” when “your government can’t even run a bath”.

Conservative MS Darren Millar
Conservative MS Darren Millar

Prof Drakeford replied: “When it comes to being preposterous, the leader of the opposition has cornered the market in that,” while Mr Millar heckled: “Losing his rag again.”

Senedd Members voted 37-11 against Plaid Cymru’s motion, 25-24 against the Labour Welsh Government’s amendment and 35-13 against the Conservatives’ amendment.

Elin Jones, the Senedd’s speaker, concluded: “Nothing is therefore agreed.”


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