Caerphilly town centre could yet have another pub, after the owner of the former Woolworths building in Pentrebane Street submitted a planning application.
The planning application is for a change of use from a shop (classed as A1) to a public house (classed as A3 – food and drink).
The upstairs of the building is home to Pulsars nightclub – aka the Checkmate – and, according to the owner, would get a re-vamp if the application was approved.
Charles Williams, who co-owns the old Woolworths and nightclub part of the building, said: “We will try and make it into a nice pub and club.
“Hopefully we can get the planning application approved and we can do something on it.
“We’ve been told we should get a decision by the end of November and then depending on the outcome of that, we’ll decide what to do.”
The application comes a fortnight after new Wetherspoon pub The Malcolm Uphill opened its doors nearby.
St Martin’s ward councillor James Fussell said he would have to look at the full application before voicing any full concerns about the impact of another pub but added that he would be on the side of the residents.
Does Caerphilly town centre need another pub? Are in favour of Pulsars getting a re-vamp? Leave your comments below.
i would b in great favour of the new pub and club in caerphilly as there is so many places closing down also its bringing more jobs to the area and a revamp would b good to u just have to look at the new weatherspoons to see the differnce it has made
I think councillor Fussel is correct, the application needs to be looked at carefully before any 'for or against' comment can be made. Many said that the Malcolm Uphill would close down other pubs, but early indications seem to show that this pub brings more customers into the town.
Readers may be interested to know that, at the end of the 19th century, there were 18 pubs between the railway station and Bedwas road. Of course Caerffili was a market town then and not all these pubs would be open every day. Still, in the last 20 years we have lost the Bluebell, Crown (Grapes)and Castle Hotel. The Boar's Head was taken over by the Municipal Club.
I've been hoping a decent company will develop a modern nightclub generating more income for all the other pubs, and other businesses. When they were on about building that shopping complex on the top of Caerphilly, that Charles Williams guy said one of the things they were on about after Pulsars was demolished was building a club to the same calibre as the clubs in cardiff. With a lot more corporate responsibility for what goes on in and outside its doors. That's all been scrapped now. Damn shame. But if people still go to the checkmate, thats why it stays in business and we get a shoddy nightclub with a bad attitude. I would support a new one on the premise that they regenerate Pentrebane street and make it more presentable and that the new tenants provide a contemporary business which is value for money for the entrance fee you pay. Also the surrounding residents have chosen to live in Caerphilly and sure enough James Fussell need to bear their views in mind, but he also needs to take into account that if there's money for regeneration and improvement available its not just the residents town its all the other people's town who go there from surrounding areas such as Bedwas, the Aber Valley, Penyrheol, etc etc. I would take a nice, well planned better run more presentable nightclub over pulsars any day.
What wonderful news, another great pub planned for Caerphilly town, and, a nightclub as well, this is exactly what the town needs to get it buzzing as a venue for entertainment and responsible drinking.
Plaid Cymru Councillors really are excelling at this `in charge` lark. We wouldn't have all this wonderful news of new pubs and clubs in the town if stuffy old Labour were in charge in Caerphilly Council, they would soon put a stop to it, this is the best Christmas Present for the town and all those people who visit it in the evenings and at week-ends. I agree with one of the last commentators that it really is nothing to do with what residents of the actual town want, they chose to live there, this is a facility need for those living outside the town to enjoy and a place to spend their money.
Councillor James Fussell should be congratulated, and so should his Plaid Cymru Colleagues who I hope will support him in agreeing to this regeneration project of this street in the town, and, I trust Plaid Cymru supporter and Cabinet member for Regeneration on Caerphilly Council Ron Davies will also offer James his full support for this project which is badly needed in the town, especially for the financial benefit of people coming into the town from Bedwas, the northern Valley,and all points outside the town, what really could be better?, wonderful news.
For businesses to survive they need to reinvent themselves. The more new & high quality venues that open in the town centre can only be a good thing. I fail to see how it could affect the local residents as the nightclub already exists.
I AGREE
As a resident my main objection would be the parking problems it would cause. Residents parking is a joke in the town centre, it is abused daily, and some non residents use Residents Parking spots for long term, three or four days at a time, parking. The residents find it hard to park by day, as there are no traffic wardens in the town, and if this opens we wouldnt be able to park at night either. Why not have a night club somewhere like one of the retail parks, alongside B and Q for example, or in Bedwas, Senghenydd, Penyrheol or Aber, that would save the town centre residents from any noise and disturbance caused by all these deprived would be revellers. The long lamented Camelot on Castle Street was in an ideal situation, no residents to bother.
Disregard all politicians. It's good to see to top of Caerphilly town beginning to improve. If Plaid or Labour are responsible, thank you.
I dont see how opening yet another public house is an improveemnt to the top of Caerphilly, all it will bring is drunks,trouble, car thefts, puke and discarded rubbish from the takeways, which will breed rats. Why cant the top of Caerphilly have a nice Art Gallery,a good restaurant, (that is not a pub or a cheap takeaway), high quality shops or even a Starbucks to attract a better class of shopper, as opposed to yet another horde of valleys drunks out on a good time?.
It's an absolute nightmare! Caerphilly is already full of pubs, charity shops, cash generators, bettings shops, pound shops, and now there's a Brighthouse coming to the old Mothercase store. What on earth are the council thinking of? What impression will this give to visitors, and how will this attract new investors and mainstream stores?
What are people worried about with this new club and pub?
Caerphilly Town is a commercial area, shops etc, it is not a residential area, Bargoed has its own Club and the police say that there is no problem in that town, residents nor local politicians in Bargoed have ever complained about it so far as I know.
Bargoed is now starting to regenerate itself with the help and investment of Plaid Cymru Caerphilly council and the Night Club there sits very well in that regeneration.
What the night club in Bargoed has done for that town the new proposed one in Caerphilly would do for our Town.
Good on local Councillors for bringing this to Caerphilly, about time they did something for the town to come alive at night, and the people who use these pubs and clubs are responsible and well behaved individuals, when did you last hear the police saying there was ever a problem with drunks and other causing trouble in Caerphilly Town?, never.
Obviously Ryan is very young and does not remember when Castle Street, at night was a no go area with its takeways and night club, and bus trips would be organised to come to Caerphilly merely to cause trouble. It wasnt that long ago when touble occurred every Friday and Saturday night at the Courthouse, with abuse of drugs very common.It got so bad that the then Vicar of St Martins would acompany the police on their rounds. Theres no need for another pub or nightclub in the centre of Caerphily, which has residential streets on both sides of Cardiff Road.
Thank you Ron for reminding everyone what Caerphilly was like NOT SO MANY years ago that I cannot remember it, I do.
But Local Councillors like Mr Fussell would soon step on it if there were any problems like that now in the Town, I am sure he and his colleagues would ensure that the Gwent Police would deal with it, would`nt he? This night club would bring the town alive at night, something which is badly needed, all the pubs stop at midnight or one o`clock, and where can law abiding young people go who want to drink and enjoy themselves after that? only Cardiff or Bargoed so why not keep it in the town?
We have got the taxi`s, we have the takeaways, we have late night restaurants of all sorts, all that would be needed would be night buses to and from the town to get it really dancing and jiving. I am sure us youngsters would welcome Ron to join us in partying at our new club.
But seriously, I have never heard the Councillors or the Gwent Police say there is any drug problem in the town, they say there is no drunken or anti social behaviour issues, and no parking issues, so, that deals with that.
The new town `Street Pastors` would keep the peace on the streets with Police so we could all enjoy the new `Caerphilly`.
I think all residents will and should be behind Cllr Fussell in promoting this new development in the Town.
Ryan I dont know what world you live, in but drunkeness, antisocial behaviour and parking are major issues for the town centre residents. As for the drug problem, I have seen drugs openly on sale in the town. If Cllr Fussell is for a new night culb, why not use the old Miners Hospital as its location.
Richard Williams said "Many said that the Malcolm Uphill would close down other pubs, but early indications seem to show that this pub brings more customers into the town."
i whould point out that the whole town is suffering from decreased numbers dew to the road worcks and as such no true comparison can be made till the town is reopend proply
i whould also point out that the large shop that is curently on the site is well used by meany of the residents in cearphilly by whitch i mean all of caerphill not jest thows who live near town center. and i for one whould be sad to see it go
i also wonder about the wisdom of yet anther food and drinks place. for ecanomic stabilaty you need to have as much of a diverse spred of establishments as posible. with this in mind more pubs during a time when lots of plases are closing may not be very sustanable.
that being said i am all in faver of a redevlipment of the section of the bilding that is Pulsars as such a move may bring back traid that is leaveing caerphill to go to places like cardiff
ps @Ryan
you said "But Local Councillors like Mr Fussell would soon step on it if there were any problems" he and plyed dident step in to quickly when there was truble frome the court house they only boutherd when public out cry over the situation grew
I don't think we need yet another pub in Caerphilly.i feel sorry for the residents who live very near there,yes there is a club there now open mostly fri and Saturday but of course a pub would be open every day and night.
Sorry to say yes we do have a drug problem just like most towns do these days.
It is a shame that the Top end of town is looking very tired to say the least,it's just a shame that we still have to travel to Cardiff for decent shops,it was said once the new shopping centre was built we would have all the best clothing shops but sadly it has not happened .
We have a wide selection of betting shops though and yet another Tesco due at the old Bowls inn Pub,how many Tesco do we need that will be our 5th withing a few miles.
Sad to see the court house go down hill,I reckon within a year or two there will be pubs closing in Caerphilly,I wonder what is stopping the current owner of pulsars making Pulsars a nice club now????
John Owen, can't you remember that castle park ,van road and the other areas experienced quite a bit of disturbance when Castle street was very lively?
Let's hope that the old woolworths site is used for something needed for our Town and yet another pub is not needed,speak to the other publicans in and just outside the Town they will all tell you that they are Really struggling at present,people don't have the money these days unless your a AM member earning £54 grand a year then your doing ok .
Its difficult to make comparison, because, lets face it places like Penarth and Whitchurch are richer than Caerphilly, but they seem to have a wider range of small shops than in Caerphilly, for example, one is spoilt for choice in Coffee Bars and Bistros in both places. I know Caerphilly has one or two, but perhaps the potential owners cant see a profit in Caerphilly. I have no great antagonism to the Castle Court Centre, but it was obvious what would happen to Cardiff Road when it opened, and it did. Cardiff Road and the top of town died, turning into mixture of takeways, charity shops and betting shops, but Caerphilly is not alone, since the death of the high street is a widespread problem in Britain. At the time, THE COUNCIL didnt seem to care about the future of Cardiff Road being seduced by the siren charms of Morrissons and a new shopping development to the detriment of the existing shopkeepers. The problem is THE COUNCIL cant make people open shops, that has to be a commercial decision, but why cant a town with the second biggest castle in Britain attract a new range of shops. I cant see the opening of a new pub and club would benefit the town, what we need in Caerphilly is a middle class gentrification of Cardiff Road to make it the town it should be.
I see everyone talking about the new proposed club/pub, the revamp of pulsars, whether it would be good for the town etc, but has anyone actually thought about the business that is actually there now?! Yes with all the mundane & repetitive shops in caerphilly, this is one shop which caerphilly can be proud of, I for one know that every day any day you can get exactly what you need when you need it in the old woolworths. I bet there would be alot of people who are 'for' this idea, would soon be against it once they actually see the club replace the shop and no longer get their everyday essentials from the shop. This shop literally does everything, where else would you get your things, the market?? HA, it is very poor! Profile is chavy, I have no idea why there is a pet shop moving in such a big store. Have fun getting ur stuff from the charity shops etc. If this plan does go ahead, I can guarantee you now there will be a big fight against it, a MASSIVE petition will be taking place!
I have found the recent comments interesting, but, and this is a rare admission, I agree with Cllr. Fussel that comments 'for and against' cannot be made, in any meaningful fashion, until the planning application is submitted.
I will reserve my judgement until we hear what is actually proposed.
I don't need to see any planning application,I understand what a pub is.
Let's hope that it does not go ahead,like I've said what has stopped the owner of Pulsars making it a better place now? without the pub?
I agree Whitchurch has a better selection of shops.
The shop owners are finding the rates to high to survive,the way we are going is not the way forward I would like to see.
Caerphilly Council at the moment are doing nothing but self praise,they are a joke and I know a lot of people will agree,I can't wait to hear their opinion of this new pub.
Mary Portas, the Queen of Shops, says Charity Shops actually cause the rundown of an area becuase they dont pay rates and the "staff" are volunteers, no wonder Cardiff road is in decline, nothing but charity shops, takeaways and betting shops, would yet another pub do any good.
I disagree with Dave, regarding pubs and clubs, there are many possible combinations of pub or night club. I do agree with his comment on Caerffili County Borough Council who praise themselves fulsomely for fireworks, Big Cheese, etc, but show no interest whatsover in the real life of the town.
But can an annual subscription, membership card, night club be compared to a pay at the door drinking hole? We really need to see what is proposed.
The proposed site is in a prime position ,lets use it to start making cheese in the town once again,they could also sell it there.
There are quite a few things that site could be used for which would benefit Caerphilly A pub is NOT needed.
I agree
The fact is that whatever anyone who lives in the town thinks, they will not, from all experiences so far, need to be consulted on this project for two licenced premises. Were they consulted on the Malcolm Uphill Pub?. and the Council sped that one through planning, and, I think the Plaid Cymru Council, with the support of three Plaid Cymru Ward Councillors for the town,and all other Plaid Cymru Councillors in the area, including the Cabinet Member for Regeneration Ron Davies, can do the same in this case.
They know it will bring additional activity to the town, it will improve the business of Fast food shops, taxi firms, and other pubs, how would all be able to open later to cater for the influx of young people looking to be spending money in the town, it will be a place of late night entertainment that is badly needed here, it will introduce a new night time dimension to the Town which will put Caerphilly on the entertainment map, with hopefully, rock bands and national visiting DJ`s. All intended to improve the town.
Some people have mentioned the effect on residents, well, I agree with some that it is not an issue for them, there is a night club there at present so the council would find it impossible to refuse the current planning application, and no-one knows this better than Councillor James Fussell who is a past Chairman of the council`s Planning committee, the fact he is also one of the three Plaid Cymru St Martins ward Councillor will make no difference at all.
The fact that there is a night club there now do not mean that they will get a pub licence,Lets remember the club at present is only open for a few hours a week ,the pub will be open 7 days and seven nights no doubt,wonder if the police will object? I recently read that a bar in Cardiff which was above a shop wanted to convert the shop into a bar that got refused just one example and that was not in a residential area.
We already have a pub venue in Caerphilly putting on live bands .
Re the new pub where Co Co's was welcomed by everyone I think due to the fact that the old place was in such a state,maybe they will think that because they have just granted a pub licence they don't feel the need for another pub.
Richard Williams, remember that the Double Diamond Club? When they turned that into a Disco they had a membership scheme there also the Club Camelot did,ask the residents what they experienced when the Diamond was a Disco not good I remember.
Re the Council praising themselves recently it's not the fireworks,look how much we have saved etc now that is quite a list of things and to pay for advert on the radio to tell us,who is paying for that?
Re the new pub will bring more people to the Town I don't think so,what happens that the existing pub goes in Caerphily move from pub to pub we have seen it all before.
I think that the new wetherspoon pub is a great addition to our Town a family oriented venue with good value food,it is about time we had it every other town has a Wetherspoon.
I will be very surprised if the Police will support this new woollies pub they can't cope as it is..
Ryan thinks ,and I quote,
"They know it will bring additional activity to the town, it will improve the business of Fast food shops, taxi firms, and other pubs, how would all be able to open later to cater for the influx of young people looking to be spending money in the town, it will be a place of late night entertainment that is badly needed here, it will introduce a new night time dimension to the Town which will put Caerphilly on the entertainment map, with hopefully, rock bands and national visiting DJ`s. All intended to improve the town", all I can say is NOT.
It may attract young people to the town, but will not improve it, all the extra money will go into the hands of the taxi firms and takeaways few of which are locally owned and none owned by the long suffering residents who would have to suffer the noise disruption and mess. If there is a need for a night club, build it near B and Q, or, if Cllr Fussell is so keen, up on Watford in the old Miners site. they can have all the Rock bands and national famous DJs they like.
Interesting comments one and all. I broadcast that an application for a change of use has been submitted to planning for the former Woolworth site Pentrbane Street, you all have an opportunity to offer support to this or to object. Planning officers will have to write a report that complies with planning legislation (not coloured by political bias) and include all comments from Residents, police, and businesess which will be included in the final report.
Decision is made either by officers as a delegated item, or by council committee (agendas available on CCBC web site) which meets each month and at which public may have an opportunity to speak.
Should any one wish more detail on how to access this information please contact me directly jamesfussell@caerphilly.gov.uk
Dave, I do remember the Double Diamond, Camelot, etc, in fact my brothers and I are life members of the Checkmate, not that that counts for much now!
What I was referring to was not the Mickey Mouse membership that these clubs used to offer, (I used to get into the DD for 50 pence as I knew all the bouncers) but a proper members club. This would include membership subscription, lower age limit, and a proper sign in system for guests of members. This is a far cry from the membership offered by the DD and Checkmate.
I think the people of the town will vote on the issues contained in this blog with their feet in next years election for Councillors, I note Councillor Fussell position is that he hasn`t now yet got one, but he will be lulled into a false sense of security if he fails to scrutinise this project fully, and, in the interest of all people from the surrounding areas and not just the towns residents, but, no concerns or fear there as he has a history of always doing the right thing in that respect, i.e. representing the people of the town on parking issues, taxi ranks, the issue of the removal of the footbridge over the railway line, supporting the youth club in the Church hall Parc Lane, all good stuff?. etc etc
This town needs this development, and, Councillor Jim Criddle, (Councillor for Pontllanfraith) the Chairman of the Caerphilly CBC Planning committee would also be well advised, in the interest of any ongoing ambitions Plaid Cymru have of continuing to run this Council, to properly consider all the benefits of such a development, and perhaps they could do so as quickly and efficiently as they did with Malcolm Uphill in Cardiff Road, I think this new applicant would expect no less beneficial treatment, level playing fields and all that, but with regard to the one comment on this page which says the Police have a problem already in the town, that is clearly wrong and they have never issued any caution to that effect, in fact they say they do not have a problem with parking enforcement in the town, no problem with illegal drugs, and, no particular problems with the running of local pubs or anti social behaviour as a result so that issue would be a `red herring` and not matters to be worried about in respect to this new development.
The Councillors and Police may not have a problem with parking in the town, because they ignore any violations that occur. There is a supposed to be a system of Residents parking, and residents have to apply for a parking disc, but why, no one, police, traffic wardens seem to bother where cars are parked, but it bothers me, if I cant park in a residents parking area because of non residents parking there for days a time. The councillors cant conjure up proper meaningful development for Caerphilly, we dont have an art gallery, a museum, a proper theatre, a cinema and the ongoing library farce shows how useless they are, but surely the least they can do is solve the residents parking problem, because when it comes to the elections the town centre residents vote for them , or not.
John Owen – you are somewhat out of touch. The work on the new library/heritage centre/ museum is due to start in the first week of December! Its three storey’s and is utilising the old stone that is already in existence. If it hadn’t been for the lobbying by the three County Councillors for the area (Colin Elsbury, James Fussell and Steve Kent) it wouldn’t have happened.
One of Caerphilly’s oldest and best loved theatre halls (The Workman’s Hall by the pic) now has a new management committee and is going through process of applying for grants and thereafter much needed renovation work to turn it into a theatre, cinema venue and exhintion rooms. Exciting times ahead for the town!
The councillors that support this new pub I feel will lose votes,yes a lot of the younger generation are thinking hey let's have another pub but let's be honest you don't see the younger ones even voting,how can you really say that Caerphilly needs another pub??
Don't get me totally wrong I am not saying Caeerphilly should not have a real decent Night Club,they should like other folks have said have it out of town not in this part of town,it really amazes me that a big Club operator has not opened in Caerphilly ,
I remember a few years ago a night club was going to be built up by the garden centre ,but sadly the owner of the land at the time who I know personally changed his mind even though they were granted a licence.
What happened to the Corbetts club? If I remember the police were called there quite often.
I don't tink the Police have enough resources now,when one of my neighbours had his car broken into it was reported in the morning they came nine and a half hours later.
I am sorry but I do not believe we don't have a drug problem in Caerphilly I really wished that we did not have a drug problem get real folks.
Most weekends especially when it's dry so people are then walking home we experience after the pubs and clubs have closed people tipping our big wheelie bins over putting bins on top of cars and knocking car mirrors off the list goes on,the police where called and we were told we don't have to put up with it but sadly we do.
I cannot see how this new pub will benefit Caerphilly?ok there will be jobs probably staff coming from the current pubs which are struggling yet another pub would really see them off.
Someone said the council can't make people open shops but surely they can give some incentives.
A good place to have the night club would be the new council offices ,what a waste of money that was,£20 million pounds to build it then additional £6 was spent,we can't even get the council to cut the overgrown trees near residents houses,perhaps the council will do something about them once a tree goes crashing into someone's house.
I would be very surprised if the Police support yet another pub in Caerphilly.
The residents who live near Pentrebane street should know what councillors support this proposed pub,it seems at the moment some councillors just don't want to speak up.
I hope "PJB" is right, I am looking forward to seeing the start of building work for our new library beginning in four weeks time. I must admit to being as out of touch as John Owen, as I thought there were no plans for this year and that the dressed stone has been sold. I stand corrected and look forward to our new library opening early in 2012, built using the same stone as this iconic 1930's building.
A number of people have mentioned. on this site, that there are problems in this town of Anti Social Behaviour,Drugs, and problems with the existing pubs.
The Local Gwent Police will say, and its on record, that there are no such problems in the town, they also say there is no illegal parking problem in the town, and, to undertake any further enforcement would be ` disproportionate` to any problem that may exist in the perception of residents, i.e. in their minds.
It would not be possible for the police to oppose such a new development in the town, they have to demonstrate impartiality,and, already to have made no demonstrations of concern in relation to the Malcolm Uphill development, on a site where no pub existed before, how on earth can they demonstrate being impartial and equitable in their public role when it comes to any comments on this development which already has a liqueur licence?
Does anyone have the answer?
Arthur,re the liqueur licence,is that currently in place for the shop? If so then that's a big difference to a pubs licence.
To say that we don't have a drugs problem in Caerphilly is just not true,I am not saying its worse than any other town but let's admit the truth.
To wait over nine hours for the police to call when my neighbour had his car broken into I don't think is acceptable,whey were they so long? Because they were so busy they tell us,so if Caerphilly is such a crime free zone what were they doing?
As I've said before what is stopping the current owners of Pulsars making it a nice club in the past without this pub?
I can just see it now if it opens it's obvious it will affect the pubs who are struggling at present so we are going have more than one closing ,the people move from one pub to another,flavour of the month ,people these days cannot afford to drink in pubs like they have done in the past,times are hard to say the least.
Sorry Dave, you are shooting the messenger in relation to your disputing the fact that the police say, NOT ME, that these problems do not exist in this town, correct me if I am wrong but when did you last hear the Gwent Police express any misgivings about anything going on in this town, further, you should also be aware that we are not policed from this town any longer after dark, our officers come from far afield, in fact from wherever they may be at the time, and only then after they have prioritised their responses, sometimes not turning up at all.
The drinks licence is on the current club, and I am sure the Caerphilly council would be accused of restrictive practice if they prevented its proper or reasonable expansion and reasonable development uses, i.e. improving the profit line for the holders of the licence.
And I repeat my assertion that there would have to be a concerted effort to prevent this development by, The Residents, both Caerphilly Town and County Council`s, all local Councillors ( and that's a big ask)business leaders, lawyers, and the Gwent Police, and if you think Dave you can pull that lot together and get them all of one mind then you are not of this world, the three Plaid Cymru Councillors for the Town did not attend last Friday for a one hour or so public meeting in respect to the town`s business people, and the residents, serious concerns at the catastrophic situation with business trade in the town.
Arthur,just because the night club has a licence does not mean they are guaranteed to get a licence for the down stairs place,This was just recently the case in Cardiff City Centre,a bar was licensed upstairs but when the owner wanted to open his shop below as a bar they got refused a licensed.
Re the coucillors not attending the meeting I am quite surprised,I wonder why they did not?i
A few years ago we had a problem,when the coucillors were doing their door to door rounds I told the one councillor the problem we had,he said he would try and sort it I them replied thank you very much you will get my vote,he then replied I don't want your vote,I bet you can guess what party this member belonged to,no clues but I will put money on it you will get it right.
The last time we saw a policeman here she said oh we normally don't have a problem here then I replied there are four recent incidents that you are not aware of some because some neighbours did not report it,I think this is happening a lot in Caerphilly.
I personally would like to see the old woollies premises used for retail.
Like I have said I am not against a night club for Caerphilly but in the right location,I don't think a pub would help the traders at all.
Yes I am aware the the temporary police station is office hours,why I don't know,but we have had to ring a 01633 number for the police for a good while now,you will also find that most of the reported crime in Caerphilly is drug related that is a fact,wether its shop lifting,car crime or robbery,burgalary this is a fact.
Let's see if common sense prevails but I am not holding my breath because I know what the council are capable of,I wonder who of the councillors will be attending this meeting re the proposed pub,also the profits of the licence holder should be of no interest to the council ,they should do what they think fit for the residents of Caerphilly.
If the council are wanting a night club here so bad why don't they promote the out of town buildings still empty since they have been built.
I dont mind being out of touch, but like Richard Williams, I was unaware of any immedeate plans for a new library, its been in the structure plan for years. I would be glad if PJB could say where its to be built and what landmark building was demolished to provide the stone.PS I`m John Owen who is PJB, or are they shy?.
Post Office redevelopment:
Application number 11/0502/FULL is to erect two storey library and customer services centre submitted July 2011.
Also
Application number 11/0584/NOTD is for the demolition of the same site.
The existing stone within the building is to be reused in the new build library.
Can anyone tell me what other authority is building new libraries in this climate. Plaid led Caerffili are opening 4 NEW libraries and have refurbished many more recently.
The existing Post Office building is one of the few good buildings of any architectural pretence, in the slum that is Caerphilly. Words fail me, because the new building, judging by the stuff thats been thrown up in the last fifteen years,e.g Castle Court, will not be as good as the old one.
That says it all it looks like Plaid thinks and hopes that opening new libraries is going towin them votes.
It's a shame they can't do something for the proper for Caerphilly ,free car parking would be a start I'm sure that would please the traders also.
4 new libraries are 4 needed when this council claim they are doing their best to save money?
I understand that the Police station will be based at the old post office this I think is great having the police back in town,it's a shame the temporary police station is not manned 24 hours though.
I feel really sorry for the traders as they are NOT getting the support from Plaid.
I am looking forward to their views on the proposed pub in the old woollies ant the moment all they will say is we gotta look at the plans come on a pub is a pub we know what that means.
Why don't plaid start lisetening to to the people?
Re the Big Cheese I think that it is a great event that brings thousands of people into Caerphilly and gives some local people a chance to sell their crafts etc,if the rates and rents were not so high then maybe they too could afford a shop in town,many of the shops in Carrphilly owned by a local estate agent and others owned by a local family who trade there themselves but expect quite high rent.
It is very sad but a fact Caerphilly is going to become a just full off charity shops,betting shops and Estate agents how many of them do we need? Oh let's not forget we are going to have a new libraries now that will upturn trade won't it? I think not .
Whilst I think any re-generation is good I cant help but feel sorry for the residents at that end of town if this nightclub is given the go ahead. Yes Caerphilly has the scope for a nightclub but where pulsars was located was completely nuts. Charity shops, betting offices and pubs is this is what Caerphilly is going to become though ? Like a lot of other towns around the vallies, when there is a recession it is us that are hit the hardest !!!
the council are not thinking of the majority of people in caerphilly, when all this clubbing will be going on they will be in bed.So please tell. me how it will benefit them.
Caerphilly is going down hill fast and it seems to me the councilors are helping to do this they seem to have no interest in the everyday problems of the small shopkeepers.
They more interested in granting planning permission for tesco to go anywere any time
I agree with Lorraine, how many Tesco's do we need? If they open the one in the former Bowls Pub we will have 5 within a few miles.
Caerphilly councillor's don't seem that interested in Caerphilly re the shops .I will be very dissapointed if this Pub gets the go ahead but to be honest I won't be surprised .
Does anyone know the outcome of the planning application for this proposed pub,I understand it was up for planning at the end of November.