A candidate for the upcoming Bedwas, Trethomas and Machen by-election has been suspended by UKIP and resigned from the party after posting on Facebook that immigrants should be gassed.
Bobby Douglas made the comments after posting about how UKIP leader Nigel Farage would refuse to give benefits for immigrants until they have lived in Britain for five years.
He also said a woman should have been “painted black” to get into the UK, before describing migrants as “sponging, scrounging parasites”.
He also labelled Muslim men paedophiles after claiming marrying children is sanctioned by Islam.
Mr Douglas is standing in the by-election that takes place on September 3, next week, but UKIP have withdrawn their backing after investigating the offensive and Islamophobic remarks, which were uncovered by Caerphilly Observer.
Posting on Facebook last year, Mr Douglas said of immigrants: “Gas the b******s if they don’t go. If it’s good enough for badgers it’s good enough for scum.”
In another post, regarding a Welshman whose American wife and child were allegedly removed from the country, Mr Douglas said: “They should have painted her black, told her not to speak English, she would have ended up with a house, £500 a week benefits and everything else these sponging scrounging parasites have.”
Mr Douglas also used social media to call for the formation of a vigilante group and a return to hanging and lynching.
The politician also ‘likes’ at least seven pages associated with the racist English Defence League (EDL) and shared a letter penned by them in January calling for school pupils not to be taught about Islam in religious education.
The letter attacks Islam as “intolerant” and says pupils can be taught about all other religions.
He has also shared posts by the far-right Britain First and ‘likes’ the English Volunteer Force who support the loyalist paramilitary group the Ulster Volunteer Force – a group responsible for killing more than 500 people, mainly Catholic civilians.
Mr Douglas told Caerphilly Observer that the ‘gassing’ comment was “in jest” and that he has a “black sense of humour”.
Asked if it was wrong he said: “Yes, it was said out of context to somebody.”
Mr Douglas denies being a member or supporter of the named groups and warned of the dangers of the far-right.
He said: “We’re living in a socially deprived area and if you look up north, where it’s worse, you’ve got the younger generation unemployed, and you’ve got these right-wing parties.
“A lot of the youngsters in those areas are drifting towards them, and to me that’s exactly what happened in Germany in the early 30s. It’s frightening.
“I look at what they’re saying because how can you be critical if you don’t know what they’re saying. I will not support right-wing parties.”
Denying saying a woman should be painted black was racist, Mr Douglas said: “Currently that’s the way it’s going. The way people are coming into the country is uncontrolled. Not only black people.
“It’s not racist, it’s just currently what’s happening.”
When applying to join the party, would-be UKIP members must confirm they have never been members of far-right and fascist groups, including the BNP, Britain First and EDL.
Mr Farage is against the death penalty but is open to holding a referendum on the issue.
After Caerphilly Observer contacted UKIP to ask it about the posts, the party launched an investigation and Mr Douglas was subsequently suspended as its candidate.
A UKIP spokesperson said: “UKIP has suspended Bobby Douglas as a candidate in the forthcoming by-election.
“His name will still be on the ballot paper as a UKIP candidate due to the late change, but he will not be representing the party.
“UKIP understands that Mr Douglas has apologised for his remarks on social media and has also taken the decision to resign from the party.”
UKIP’s 2016 Assembly election campaign chief Sam Gould, who came second in Caerphilly in this year’s General Election, said: “I wouldn’t stand by such comments at all. Not in anyway whatsoever, that’s not acceptable.
“Within two hours of the party being made aware of the comments he was suspended and within 24 hours he was no longer a member of the party.”
In his resignation letter, Mr Douglas said: “I deeply regret any offence I have caused by posting and reposting various remarks on Facebook.
“They were made in poor humour at a time when I was not a candidate and not even considering standing for election. I was furthermore not even a member of the party at the time these comments were made.
“I accept full responsibility for these comments and am therefore resigning my membership with immediate effect.”
Since Caerphilly Observer approached Mr Douglas, many of the offending posts have been removed or his Facebook page has been made private.
The other candidates standing for election are Ray Davies, Independent, Ron Davies, Plaid Cymru, John James Dew, Independent, Lisa Jones, Labour and Rita Lukins, Conservative.
Congratulations to the Caerphilly Observer for exposing this shocking racist. It tells us a lot about UKIP that it continues to attract such people and does nothing to stop them until they are exposed by someone else
Says the Labour-supporting UNITE union rep. Let’s not forget, UNITE was investigated for fraud in 2013 for trying to rig elections and have been financially supporting the anti-UKIP and increasingly inaccurately named Hate not Hope which has itself been investigated for allegedly evading tax using its fake charity.
In 2013 the Labour Party helped Margaret Burke get elected in Milton Keynes. Ms Burke ran a militant Nazi group in the 80s and then became an animal rights terrorist which got her locked up. She was considered such a danger to national security she was being watched by the security services.
It tells us a lot about Labour that it continues to attract such people and does nothing to stop them EVEN WHEN they’re exposed by someone else.
Get your own house in order before you start slinging mud around Jeffrey.
Labour are hardly in any position to cast aspersions at anyone, considering what’s been swept under the carpet in the last few years. I can quite easily stomach some “thought or speech crime because there is no lasting damage to anyone”, but rape, paedophilia, mass immigration, illegal wars, mass destabilisation of the 3rd world?..If I were you, I,d go clean up the stench in your own kitchen first… “I rest my case your Honour”.
I call this shoddy journalism by Caerphilly Observer. It looks like a witch-hunt considering the comments are from 18 MONTHS ago. Shall we remember: Ron Davies cheated on his wife by having homosexual flings which he described as a “moment of madness.” Let us remember, he lied and cheated to his wife, can he lie and cheat to the voters?
I also complain about the ease at which you label groups including BNP, EDL, and Britain First under the one big umbrella of “far-right and fascist.” After reading the posts by the group on social media, and speaking to members of the groups, the members are ordinary, decent people who are far from racist but more angry at their views not being listened to.
Oh shut up cry baby.
Having an affair with somebody else (it doesn’t matter whether it’s another bloke or another woman, you homophobe) is a complete irrelevance compared to this racist bigot’s vile ideas. Are you also saying that this bloke has radically changed his views in 18 months?! Putting things like this on facebook is disgraceful, period.
Plus, if you don’t think that the BNP and the EDL are racist, you need to read a bit more (I’m surprised you can, to be honest).
Of course it is relevant. He lied to his wife about not cheating on her, and then lied about being straight. Two lies are worse than one lie. If he tells two large lies to his wife – the person he is supposed to love an be closest to – then he can lie to us without a second thought. Think of the effects of his lies on his wife. She would feel humiliated for marrying someone who was gay, and then feel humiliated for being cheated on. His sexuality is of complete indifference to me but in this case his sexuality has been one of the lies he has told, and has hurt someone he was meant to care about.
If you research the groups (not read about them in newspapers as that would not stand up in academic debate as research) you will find the groups have despicable members but the general message is often acceptable – this excludes BNP and the EDL, but Britain First are more moderate.
you really need to do some reading there is far more to sexuality than gay or straight. what emyr was saying is that who and what (for lack of a better word) he cheated on her with is irelivent. only the fact that he cheat is relevant as for saying its two lies i have yet to hear a story were his wife claimed he ever said he was straight so it sounds like you are just making things up to me
I find it remarkable that you consider saying offensive words, however disgusting, a more serious transgression than cheating on your wife. Off hand, off colour remarks are now worse than and actual wrong doing?
I think you have a poor priority system.
I find racism and fascism more serious transgressions than rigidly sticking to the heteropatriarchal judeo-christian system that dictates the nature of relationships in our society, yes.
I do apologise I had no idea that you had been indoctrinated into the sjw cult.
I would never normally accuse my co- debater of a pathology and even derided other people for it recently. But you just fired a load of buzzwords that signal to me you are currently beyond comprehension.
Have the last word and please don’t talk to me again and I will do like wise.
off hand color remarks hurt every p.o.c in sum way were as cheating only affects those around you
The severity of a wrong doing to a small amount of people is now less than a wrong word to many?
not a wrong word but an expression of views that shows support to people who would discriminate who would hurt, mall and murder the p.o.c and render them as an outer
Incitement to violence is another matter altogether is this what we are saying here.
i dont know how would you classify saying immigrants should be choked with gas till they die?
Ah bwgger I only skimmed the article. My point is still valid but not in this case. I rescind and bow out.
props to someone with the guts to back down to few people do that and just go quiet
Good god it’s in the heading! I’ll read more carefully next time.
And be careful what you write in respect to othe people, alter your mindset and rid yourself of the discriminatory hate attitude towards gay people.
Stop being silly.
A persons sexuality is absolutely and totally irrelevant to anything at all, let alone a persons ability to stand in an election, and to deride Ron Davies in the way you have by publicaly stating that he `lied` to his wife, that he `cheated` on her, how on earth do you know that? how do you know his wife was not complicit in the process, having already declared their partnership over? and in furtherance of his `treatment` at the time for what we were told was a psychological disorder, or for some other reason, fact is YOU DONT.
I think you are leaving yourself wide open to some sort of legal complications by letting the exitment of the day get the better of you, and letting your mouth work before you engage your little brain in your attempts to defend your racist friend.
The Sun reported that in March 2003, Mr Davies had engaged in a personal act with a stranger at Tog Hill, Somerset. It was 17 days after his third wife gave birth to their first child. The newspaper published photographs of him leaving the bushes, and they had unpublished pictures of him being in the act. However, he told everyone he had driven to London that day and did not leave the motorway, but on Wednesday he changed his story saying he had a lavatory stop and went to walk in the woodlands alone. Then the day after he said he did meet a stranger for a brief conversation but he had been badger watching. He threatened to sue the sun but he did not, he resigned… He told multiple lies.
Read the link, the facts are there. He lied on multiple occasions to everyone before resigning.
Did he cheat on his wife? Yes. If she knew or if she did not know is irrelevant – he still cheated one her. She left him the summer after.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1424188/Moments-of-madness-that-ruined-Ron-Davies.html
Having had your last homophobic comment in relation to Ron Davies taken down, you will not escape the fact you made them, you are `homophobic`, plenty of people read them and can testify to your position. The Caerphilly Observer presumably also has a copy of your posting.
Anyway I thought I would waste my time on you by balancing the position in respect to the politicians YOU support.
Or the Tory transgressors, filthy mouthed, adulterers, indecent picture poser pratts, John Major taking sexual advantage of junior ministers, bedding them and lied to and cheating on his wife in the process, Boris Johnson, lied to and cheating on his wife in the prossess. etc etc etc. and goodness knows how many of them may have been involved in child sexual abuse and even murder in the process according to those newspaper reports you have so much faith in. Clam down and be careful how you approach the Ron Davies issues in the interest of accuracy and fact.
Britain First are more moderate, yeah. And a pig was flying over the tip in Trethomas the last time I checked as well.
why would you think it’s shoddy journalism by Caerphilly Observer over a coment 18 months ago. 18 months ago the guy was not standing for election its standard journalism practice to look at things that people standing for election have said in the past. or do you think Caerphilly Observer should be telling us about every single racist comment made on facebook as soon as it happens just in case?
No, of course not. It is shoddy journalism because the paper does not focus in on other candidates standing. There are multiple candidates who have stood in elections all over Caerphilly who have criminal records, and have done other despicable things but the paper does not focus in on them. Why not? – because it does not fit the paper’s agenda.
It is shoddy journalism because it is one-sided. I do not see the reports searching through the backgrounds of every candidate in every political party in this detail. Firstly, there are too many candidates; secondly, if the criminal backgrounds and activities of MPs are anything to go then there will lots of background on Caerphilly candidates. Across the country we have seen councillors arrested for everything from detonating bombs to child offences. It is high unlikely Caerphilly is a paradise for well behaved candidates.
as for this story there is only one side. and that side is that Bobby Douglas has some very racist views and that i have very serious doubt that he would represent every member of the ward equally.
Yes, I do to, but I my point is the media as a whole (including Caerphilly Observer) is very biased when it comes to giving airtime. Did you know a Labour councillor in Essex was arrested earlier this month on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children? If it was a UKIP councillor it would be national news but for a Labour councillor it did not make national news.
http://labour25.com/
It doesn’t matter anyone making comments like that has no place in politics no matter when the comments were made
I would agree. However, people who detonate bombs, commit child offences, or host Nazi-themed stag weekends do not either, but the media is one-sided when it comes to giving airtime to disgraced politicians or candidates. I am not defending his actions but I am defending a party against what I believe to be unfair coverage. Have you seen this website detailing the things Labour candidates have done? A Labour councillor was arrested earlier this month on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children.
http://labour25.com/
Well they need better checks and as for child abuse thats just disgusting but these horrible people are everywhere
Even in UKIP http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/former-ukip-regional-chairman-peter-entwistle-jailed-for-grooming-children-9883013.html
I agree there too, from all parties also.
Booby Douglas has to accept the consequences and will I’m sure.
It’s interesting to note that ukip expelled him immediately unlike labour and their transgressors.
Or the Tory transgressors, filthy mouthed, adulterers, indecent picture poser pratts, John Major taking sexual advantage of junior ministers, bedding them and lied to and cheating on his wife in the process,Boris Johnson, lied to and cheating on his wife in the prossess. etc etc etc.
Absolutely.
I believe that the number of labour criminals mentioned in the website you’ve listed has surpassed 25 by a large margin.
I’m not siding with this man nor condoning his words but his words were political in nature. Who are you to say he can’t voice his opinion, vitriolic as it may be? Who is anybody to tell anybody what political opinions they can or can’t have? His outbursts may have brushed against current hate speech laws but they themselves are political in nature and overlap free speech.
Who is anybody to tell anybody what political opinions they can or can’t have? you usually Pete looking back at some of your disgracful bullying of other comentators on this site, I notice that you made one `snide` remark to someone you know is also gay trying to be funny I suppose,
Nonsense I merely disagree with people I never tell them what to think.
It’s an open forum if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
As regards the snide remark, I was trying to make bridges with the man then put my foot in it so played it down all be it awkwardly.
Snide, awkwardly, whatever, many of us noticed your homophobic put down, or your childish attempt to build bridges, how does that work in such curcumstances, prat!!!!!! Incidentally, I have spoken to the person you `targeted` with your discriminatory bias, and I have to say he did not even notice the spiteful,childish playground attempt at a put down, although I have difficulty understanding what really was in you mind at the time,
Name calling really?
I won’t attempt to be amiable with you then.
I put my foot in it, played it down then changed back to the subject. well done for blowing it out of proportion and bringing it to everyone’s attention.
My pleasure
That was weird.
What is `weird` is your homophobic mindset while commenting on this site, particulary for grown people to do so, but I also see you do so hiding your identity, the Observer should acually ban comments from people if they connot properly moderate them.
That’s the second time you’ve called someone homophobic tonight. Am I bullying you by pointing that out? Do you feel bullied because the observer won’t ban people you don’t like? I know a bully when I see one, take your best shot comrade. I also see a blowhard that doesn’t like dissenting voices.
Calm down and explain what you mean, if know what you mean that is, havinf dropped a few clangers yourself today.
At least I admit my mistakes. I jumped the gun then rescinded, I’ll save it for another day when it’s more pertinent. My point was relevant right up to the time where he wished harm on someone then I could care less about him.
What you need to ask yourself is did you make a mistake in your accusations against me, are you capable of checking yourself? This remains to be seen.
You, have to live with the fact you are homophobic, period. all readers of the Caerphily Observer will remember that fact when you comment on this or that.
For some reason the second part of your comment didn’t come through so I didn’t respond to it initially, I will now.
You spoke to Trev and he didn’t notice this but you did ? You’ve built this into something else, I think you may be projecting, seriously, I really do.
I think you may be projecting, seriously, I really do.
explain
Certainly. I think you want to see it so bad your ignoring my simple explanation and projecting a false narrative so you can attack this instead. Check that you’re sure on this and get back to me.
“He also labelled Muslim men paedophiles after claiming marrying children is sanctioned by Islam.”
as much as i hate to come out on this guys side on anything he is not entirely wrong on this one some fundamental sects of islam teach that everything that muhammad did was good just because he did it and one of the things that he did (according to the koran) was marry a girl named Aisha the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.
this has lead to the practice of some muslims in fundamental country’s marring and sleeping with some very young girls who often die in pregnancy because they are not yet mature enough to carry a baby to term.
that is not to say that all Muslim men are doing this but it must be recognised that there is a very real grain of truth that this racist is using to bolster his views
He’s not wrong on the marrying children, as long as they have passed puberty then it’s fine no matter how old she is. I’m also in agreement about the American lady and her son. I’m not racist, but the PC Brigade and what’s happening in this country is slowly but surely making me one!!
I agree with you, he only said what most of us are thinking, and there is some sense behind it, illegal immigrants or foriegn invaders of our country should not receive benefits of any kind until they have been given the right to stay in the U.K. UKIP and their policies appeal to many people, but they are sensationalised by the media and lambasted by the PC Brigade, anybody who supports UKIP are made out to be racist, a word which is banded about to freely these days, I don’t want my country and it’s traditions being dragged down and eroded by this mass influx of foreign invaders who only bleed the country dry and do not contribute anything, there is a difference between nationalism and racism.
Only just read this lot, what a turn up for the book.
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